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Been to the shop lately?? NO MORE MINI machines

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Sep 21, 2008
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this is a copy and paste from thumpertalk

Someone posted this on a local board......Get on board people.

Places to take action:
www.tomself.com

A letter you can print out and mail:
http://cmpgnr.com/r.html?c=1417062&r...2edoc&g=0&f=-1

http://www.amadirectlink.com/legisltn/rapidresponse.asp

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This was posted on our district site, the letter is from Greg Robinson, Owner of Unadilla...

Good Afternoon...forget the good, as our country has descended into lunacy.

I have spent most of the day on two conference calls relative to the subject line above, and I must say I am rather concerned about the fate of our sport and industry. Not to mention our local communities for the further loss of jobs and $$ that our industry brings in each year. It is certainly that dire..believe me.

As of yesterday, all the OEMs had to pull for sale all new youth minicycles and atvs for those under the age of 13...this under order of the CPSC due to lead content of plastics and certain metals. As of yesterday, a dealer or private individual can no longer provide parts or service, to these affected machines, in which there is a possibility that those same parts may contain lead...no oil changes, plastic, levers, engine cases, etc, etc..goggles, helmets, clothing, knee braces..you name it. You may think that is just for new machines, but it is for everything new and used.

The CPSC also ruled that machines under 85cc are considered toxic to the health of young children.

Effective yesterday, Honda has pulled replacement parts from their service system for these machines pending lead certification...this takes 400 days. KTM, Suzuki, Kawasaki, and Yamaha are doing the same thing. If you have a 1,2,3 year old machine, you won't be able to buy most parts for it very soon.

Yamaha is sending out restrictions to its dealers saying that an 85cc bike can only be sold, and should only be operated by someone over the age of 13.

Now to the fun part for us as a race promoter.

Because the manufacturers are now issuing these guidelines, we as promoters cannot allow a youth under the age of 13 to participate for two reasons.
We are allowing someone to participate in a sanctioned activity on a vehicle that has been determined by the manufacturer and the CPSC to be unsafe for that age level.
We are allowing someone to participate in a sanctioned activity on a vehicle that the CPSC has determined is a toxic substance.
If you think I am joking, consider the following
MX Sports is considering removing youth classes from the Loretta Lynn's program, GNCC, and ATV Nationals...we run all three of these series and I can tell you that these classes make up over 1/3 of our entries and more than half of our attendance.
The AMA will be forced to ban youths under 13 from any AMA amateur or pro competition due to legal ramifications. The same will apply to local districts and sanctioning bodies, as insurance will not be available to cover this exposure. The lifeblood of our sport are these kids..if they cannot participate, they will find something else to do, and we will not get them back. They will not race, watch, or buy products. That means Mom, Dad and older brothers/sisters won't be there either.
Unadilla would most likely not participate in any form of amateur racing..with only half or less of the entries left, it wouldn't be financially possible.
DO I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION YET!

There are two efforts going on right now to get a temporary stay granted by the CPSC for "Off Road Vehicles." The MIC (Motorcycle Industry Council) and Missouri State House Rep Mike Sense(#4 in line in the MO st govt) are both developing grass roots letter campaigns through websites to develop a ground swell of support for this stay. Keep in mind this is only temporary, and unless a Federal injunction or legislation is developed, this isn't going away.

There are several opinions floating around on this subject saying that our thinking is flawed and that only the sale of new units is affected...if that is the case, why are helmet, goggle, sneakers, sunglasses, OEM parts and accessories, and dealer service being pulled for these units???

I will leave you with this..if indeed this is overblown, and we are right that we shouldn't be affected by this, it still doesn't mean that we can't/won't be sued by someone using this logic, and worse yet, convince a jury that the above is true. If it gets that far, you will have spent nearly a million $$ in your own defense, just to prove you were right all along.

IS IT WORTH THAT TO YOU?

I will get you info on the two websites, and I encourage you to beg everyone you know that rides, owns, promotes, or attends an off road sporting event to get everyone they know in the same manner to fill out one of these letters...Every Mom Dad and Kid should individually enter their name. Then they should contact their local representatives too.

Thanks for listening, and please do not think you can't make a difference..contact your local representatives as well..explain the economic impact this will have..educate yourself on this subject as quickly as you can.

Greg Robinson
VP Marketing
Unadillla Motorsports
© 315-725-9537
 
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Kevco

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Sep 21, 2001
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If you thought the feds were out of controll before hang on! Good thing I already have quads for the kids!
 
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Jan 3, 2008
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I picked up a Kawasaki KLX110 for my son the day before the ban went into effect because the prices were so good. I guess I didnt do enough homework because I didnt know it would affect repair and replacement parts too.

So, is this mainly affecting 85cc and under or will it extend up to the 110cc range?
 
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Apr 8, 2008
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Why is everyone so concerned about children nowadays? I mean really? I grew up on a farm. I was mixing herbicides for the sprayer in my tweens. If I get herbicide splashed in my eye you know what I did? I closed it real tight and cried it out until it didn't burn anymore...I can still see today, I was nearsighted long before I contaminated my eyes. I didn't wear the proper protective gear either. I rode old sleds, 4 wheelers and motorcycles and haven't died of lead poisoning. I went fishing and grabbed onto raw, life fish, played with tackle and then went and ate my dinner with out washing my hands. I'm still alive. I shot bottle rockets and threw fire crackers at my friends. I took all the black powder out of my bottle rockets and made a pile and lit it on fire and burnt all my eyebrows/eyelashes and bangs off my face. I fell off my bike and put a huge gash in my knee, never went to the hospital, just threw some peroxide on it and big bandaid and have a good scar. Oh yeah, helmet on a bicycle? What is that? Unless you are doing some extreme BMX **** there is no need. Guess what? I am still alive and kicking.

I am only 23, most of this is nothing compared to what you guys that are in your 30s, 40s and 50s did as children. You WILL live through it. Why stick your children in a bubble and never allow them to do anything worth while. I guess since the Playstations and Xboxes don't have anything dangerous in them they are ok? Just let the children sit in front of the TV, be antisocial, eat cheetos and gain weight is the norm now? I know if I ever have kids they will be outside as much as possible and inside as little as possible. Let's just put all kids inside a sterile bubble where NOTHING can ever happen to them so they are weak and worthless with no life experiences when they grow up.

This may sound harsh, but all this hype is complete BS if you ask me.
 
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WXNic

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you're right kev. with what fedzilla is doing now, we'll be lucky to be allowed to get out on any machines - because others may not be able to, so it's not fair for any of us. or maybe everyone will get toys so no one is left out. gone are the days where hard work and success matter. socialism is coming big time. :mad:
 
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Petition signed ...

What about sporting goods for kids, what about that stuff? does that mean football/hockey/baseball/soccer gear is recalled too?

God this torques me!!!!!
 
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JSCC

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Nov 26, 2004
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I signed the petition. This is crap! All three of my kids have machines, and will continue to do so. Who thinks they have the right to tell others they cannot have these. Who in there right mind believes kids out having fun outside with there family should not be allowed to ride these? FU**!!!
I really want to know who fronted this thing? Who were the Fu**s that signed on to it?
 
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Grizzly Adams

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Tip of the Iceberg???

Watch it if your house is more than 40 yrs old, chances are you have lead based paint in there. Almost every older house in north america has lead paint under the new paint. Will we have to strip our walls and send the stripped paint to a hazmat site next? How about older cars with lead body work? Got ant old John Deere kids pedal tractors? Some enviro told me the old paint was toxic, I replied then my whole generation is also toxic. Moral of this story, Stay home do not use paint or fossil fuels and wait for the SKY TO FALL. Chicken little I'm not.
 
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Nov 26, 2007
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I think this is perfect! I think all the modern day children should have to stay inside all day, eat cheetos and play the newest gaming console of there choice.
 
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