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07-22-2008, 9:09 AM
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King Motorsports

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SHOCK DOC.....EF HUTTON HERE!
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Yo...........Ford and GM on the upswing this morning, are you still on the train? I dipped in for another 140 shares of Ford first thing this morning and now she's a risin'!
KING MOTORSPORTS 315-427-0355 kpwithhp99@aol.com
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07-22-2008, 9:33 AM
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YAMMIEGOD3:16

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KING, I JUST GOT A LETTER FROM GM YESTURDAY TELLING ME SEE YA IN 2009 WITH THE NEW GM. MEANWHILE IT OUTLINES ALL THE CUTS AND PLANT CLOSEING FOR 2008. HEY, GLAD YOUR KEEPING THA FAITH THOUGH. 3:16 (yammie '' big '' tony)
WELCOME TO YAMAHA HEAVEN 1996 VMAX 800 (will be on tar ) 1995 VMAX 800 ( bought new!! fastest yamaha ever run at the amsnow shootout 105 MPH. 1995 american snowmobiler shootout sled ) 2002 SRX 700 ( bought new ) 2000 SRX 700 (bought new ) ( thank you mark vickio) 1979 SRX 440 (bought new) 1980 SRX 440 ( alexander vintage show champ ) 1983 VMAX 540 ( alexander vintage show champ) 1975 GPX 433 F/A (being restored, thanks dave menelley & mark elwell ) 1993 EXCITER SX (mark, call me when for sale )
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07-22-2008, 9:48 AM
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The Shock Doc

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I sold quite a bit Friday at 11:30 ($14.00) Basically, the stuff that I bought Tuesday at $8.91/share. Still have quite a bit of GM. Bought another 200 shares of Ford Friday afternoon. HEY!!!! We're driving up the cost of GM & Ford being speculators! Think people will be mad ? ROFLMAO!
Jeff Parker
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07-22-2008, 9:55 AM
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07-22-2008, 10:04 AM
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FORMULAIII

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If you can hold that GM stock till 2010 I think you will see huge gains . It's gonna take time to sort things out but they will rebound . They WILL not go under , and if by chance they get close they will be bought out and revamped but I don't see it happening . I get messages daily from GM headquarters as to what the plans are . If I had extra cash laying around I'd be putting it all in GM . They HAVE to close the plants that are making vehicles that aren't selling . We have roughly 100 new trucks and SUV's on the lot and MAYBE 10 new cars . Cars are scarce and as soon as they come in they are gone . JMO
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07-22-2008, 10:27 AM
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YAMMIEGOD3:16

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GREAT IDEA. LETS CLOSE A PLANT AND PUT ANOTHER 3500 PEOPLE OUT OF WORK !!! HEY FORMULA111, I DISAGREE, CLOSEING PLANTS AIN,T ALWAYS THE ANSWER. WHAT ABOUT BRINGING NEW PRODUCTS IN. YOU REALIZE WHAT A AFFECT IT HAS ON THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THOSE PLANTS. WHEN A COMMUNTIY DEPENDS ON GM FOR JOBS AND THEY PACK UP ITS A CRUSHING BLOW. SOUND LIKE YOU WORK AT A GM DEALERSHIP, I WORKED FOR DELCO PRODUCTS FOR 30 YEARS. MY PLANT TODAY IS CLOSED AND THE BUSINESS LONG GONE TO MEXICO AFTER GM SPUN US OFF TO FRENCH OWNED VALEO. DEALERSHIPS DON,T HAVE A CLUE WHAT GOES ON IN THOSE PLANTS. MATTER OF FACT DEALERSHIPS I ALWAYS DEALT WITH TREATED GM EMPLOYES LIKE ***. !! MAYBE GM SHOULD CLOSE SOME DEALERSHIPS. ALL I EVER SEE IS SALESMAN STANDING AROUND SMOKING CIGARETTES!!! 3:16 ( yammie '' big '' tony )
WELCOME TO YAMAHA HEAVEN 1996 VMAX 800 (will be on tar ) 1995 VMAX 800 ( bought new!! fastest yamaha ever run at the amsnow shootout 105 MPH. 1995 american snowmobiler shootout sled ) 2002 SRX 700 ( bought new ) 2000 SRX 700 (bought new ) ( thank you mark vickio) 1979 SRX 440 (bought new) 1980 SRX 440 ( alexander vintage show champ ) 1983 VMAX 540 ( alexander vintage show champ) 1975 GPX 433 F/A (being restored, thanks dave menelley & mark elwell ) 1993 EXCITER SX (mark, call me when for sale )
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07-22-2008, 10:55 AM
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FORMULAIII

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LOL . It takes time to revamp whole factories . How can they keep a truck factory open when they are not selling trucks . Kinda why you see salesman standing around smoking .The vehicles aren't selling . I understand it ruins whole communities when a factory closes , but if GM were to go under by keeping these factories open ,it would ruin alot more communities . Yes , I work at a dealership , and dealerships are closing . It won't be long until GM catches up to Ford and starts buying back dealerships and closing them . Why should they have to compete with each other in 20 mile radius . Ford caught on . How long can GM keep a plant that is loosing money open ? I am hoping that GM does close some dealerships . If they close mine (probably would be the last one on the list to close) I am not worried about finding work . The effect fuel had on truck and suv sales took hold alot sooner than expected and they have react quickly and cut overhead . Thier cash flow is nill at the moment . Ford is sitting pretty good as far as thier cash flow goes and they already made the cuts . Chrysler is the one that will be on the chopping block .
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07-22-2008, 10:55 AM
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this thread has made me feel more optimisitc about my investment in hummer bumpers , i expect a rebound any day now![Tongue Tied [:S]](/SNO/CS/emoticons/emotion-7.gif) lets unionise mexico...lol that'll fix those sweat shops![Indifferent [:|]](/SNO/CS/emoticons/emotion-8.gif)
scenario >>>> encourage georgia to invade ossentia to create a military reaction from russia as an excuse to run directly to poland and sign a missle defence treaty , polands been fear mongered...i here russia is signing a missle defence plan with venesuala , there nukes here our nukes there , worlds safer thanks to g.b. :(
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07-22-2008, 11:23 AM
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YAMMIEGOD3:16

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WELL IT USE TO TAKE THE GM PLANTS WE SUPPLIED TWO WEEKS TO RETOOL. THIS WOULD BE FOR NEW MODELS, NEW PRODUCT etc. IT WOULD USUALLY BE AROUND THIS TIME OF THE YEAR. LET ME LET YA IN ON ALITTLE SECRET, GM CLOSEING PLANTS DID NOT JUST GET INVENTED WITH GAS GOING TO 4.20 A GALLON AND AWFULL TRUCK SALES. I SEEN PLANT CLOSEING IN THE SEVENTIES SO DON,T ACT LIKE THATS THE SAVEING GRACE FOR GM. 3:16 (yammie '' big '' tony)
WELCOME TO YAMAHA HEAVEN 1996 VMAX 800 (will be on tar ) 1995 VMAX 800 ( bought new!! fastest yamaha ever run at the amsnow shootout 105 MPH. 1995 american snowmobiler shootout sled ) 2002 SRX 700 ( bought new ) 2000 SRX 700 (bought new ) ( thank you mark vickio) 1979 SRX 440 (bought new) 1980 SRX 440 ( alexander vintage show champ ) 1983 VMAX 540 ( alexander vintage show champ) 1975 GPX 433 F/A (being restored, thanks dave menelley & mark elwell ) 1993 EXCITER SX (mark, call me when for sale )
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07-22-2008, 11:34 AM
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FORMULAIII

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I think they should elect you Head of Operations . LOL I live in the Syracuse area , i think we have seen plant closings and cutbacks . HOW LONG CAN A FACTORY MAKING PARTS THAT DON'T SELL STAY IN BUSINESS ? RETOOL TO WHAT ? AMERCAN AXLE ALREADY SCREWED THEM WITH THIER STRIKE . Finally come out with a car thats selling and they can't build because they can't get axles . Gm should have more than one supplier and if someone wants to strike , have at it . I have my opinion , you have yours , niether one of us will change the others . Have a great day. Ronno , sell the Hummer stock . They are on the chopping block . They will be selling the Hummer plants with Tony's approval .
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07-22-2008, 12:09 PM
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YAMMIEGOD3:16

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OH YET ANOTHER GREAT STATEMENT BY YOU. '' GM NEEDS OTHER SUPPLIERS ''. AND WHERE WOULD YOU SUGGEST, MEXICO, OVER SEA,s TAIWAN etc. MORE U.S. JOBS GONE BECAUSE YOUR MAD ABOUT THE UNION STRIKE. FIGURED THIS WAS GOING TO THE UNION FAULT. THAT FIGURES. WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT STRIKES ANYWAY. HEY FORMULA111, YOU SHOULD GET INTO CIGARETTE INDUSTRIE. BET YOUR A EXPERT ON THAT. rotflmao. !!! 3:16 (yammie '' big '' tony)
WELCOME TO YAMAHA HEAVEN 1996 VMAX 800 (will be on tar ) 1995 VMAX 800 ( bought new!! fastest yamaha ever run at the amsnow shootout 105 MPH. 1995 american snowmobiler shootout sled ) 2002 SRX 700 ( bought new ) 2000 SRX 700 (bought new ) ( thank you mark vickio) 1979 SRX 440 (bought new) 1980 SRX 440 ( alexander vintage show champ ) 1983 VMAX 540 ( alexander vintage show champ) 1975 GPX 433 F/A (being restored, thanks dave menelley & mark elwell ) 1993 EXCITER SX (mark, call me when for sale )
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07-22-2008, 1:04 PM
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The Shock Doc

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Tony- You ever hear of lower case letters?
Jeff Parker
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07-22-2008, 1:24 PM
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The Shock Doc

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It IS the Unions fault Tony. They got too greedy. They felt that they knew how to run business better than the people who's job it is, and TRAINED to do so. I have a newsflash for them. China doesnt have a Union. Mexico doest have a Union. Indonesia doesnt have a Union. The Unions forget that their cost of labor for a WEEK is less than ONE HOUR in the UAW. The Companies CAN DEAL with those costs. Its when the dipwads go on strike, and cut production to try to muscle the company to give them MORE MORE MORE. The interuption of parts is the deathknell of the company. Some can survive it, some can't. Some make cuts to offset the losses. Guess what. They cut the American Jobs, as they caused the losses. Tell ya what. We'll see if you are a hypocrite or not. What would you do if the kid who cuts your grass, decided to let your lawn grow for 4 weeks, because he wants 15% more. And you pay him the biggest money out there already for cutting grass! You let him use your pool, your motorcycle, your sled, etc. Would you tell him to pack it, or would you pay him? The Union has the membership brainwashed. The Bus. Agents dont care what happens to YOU. Its a raise to themselves. They increase dues, and live fat WHETHER YOU WORK OR NOT. Saw it here at Fisher Guide. And Carrier. And Crouse Hinds. And Cooper Industries. And Armand Hammer. And Lipe Rollway. And Crucible. And Syracuse China. And the list keeps going. The BA's dont have ANY membership, yet they are still collecting a check.
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07-22-2008, 1:57 PM
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LOL . I rufused to buy ciggarettes from the reservation . gas also . My house is part of thier land claim . Cigarettes went to 6-7 dollars a pack . Guess what I smoke now . LOL Senecas made by the indians in Canada and buy them for $2.23 a pack . I had no choice other than quit which would be my best option . If I told our owner I wanted more money , he would tell me to earn it . Which I do with an incentive plan haven't had a raise in 5 years but continue to earn more year after year . My kid has a summer job bagging groceries at P & C . Makes 40-60 dollars a week . They are Union . They take $8.65 out of that 40-50 dollars . What is that union doing for him . GM told American Axel they were going to outsource for the parts they needed . AA told them you can't . GM said you watch . That ended the strike very quickly . If I was told I had to take a pay cut or the company would go out of business I wouldn't go on strike . Then you have no job and made thier decision easy for them . (All the while the union reps collecting thier cut ) I think in the future you WILL see business run differntly . They will have more than one supplier in case of a strike . The companies are a BUSINESS . They are in business to make a profit . The same people complaining about not getting enough money are the same ones complaining that everything costs too much . Why do you think the prices are going up ? If you are the Cooper's Shootout Bash on Friday night , i will buy you a beer (domestic , which rules out Bud .LOL) and we can discuss it further . But if Doc is there I might as well not bother because I will never get a word in . It is hard times for EVERYONE . American Axle also makes axles for Toyota . HMMM they didn't have a problem when the strike occured .
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07-22-2008, 2:21 PM
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The Shock Doc

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sorry Steve...............![Embarrassed [:$]](/SNO/CS/emoticons/emotion-10.gif) ![Zip it! [:#]](/SNO/CS/emoticons/emotion-16.gif) I just figured I could interject SINCE THE POST HAD MY NAME ON TOP!!!! LOL...proceed at full speed Captain (Morgan)
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07-22-2008, 2:50 PM
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Doc , before you posted , I had a whole paragraph about the Union typed but decided not to post because it causes severe reactions from union workers who I have no problem with and actually feel for them in this day and age because it is just a matter of time . But you broke the ice , or shall I say cleared all the ice in the northern hemisphere with your post . I said all I have to say on the matter , and again it is only my opinion and perception of things . Injerject at will . Are you going to Coopers friday night Doc . And don't make up some lame excuse like you used to give Hill's .......![Zip it! [:#]](/SNO/CS/emoticons/emotion-16.gif)
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07-22-2008, 3:16 PM
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unions did alot for american workers , prob is they chased the buisnesses out , they got top dollar for there workers and for themselves , unfortunatly most buisnesses have no obligation to stay in one designated area , especialy when they can make more profits elswhere , kinda a no brainer......
scenario >>>> encourage georgia to invade ossentia to create a military reaction from russia as an excuse to run directly to poland and sign a missle defence treaty , polands been fear mongered...i here russia is signing a missle defence plan with venesuala , there nukes here our nukes there , worlds safer thanks to g.b. :(
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07-22-2008, 3:31 PM
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All sales of trucks and suv's are down. Way down. All brands are in the battle of their life. As it should be only the strongest will survive. I think you may see entire brands fazed out. If truck production must be slowed will GMC go away? How about Pontiac? I think GM will be ok but it is going to get ugly before it gets pretty. Jim
90% of all Ford trucks are still on the road today. The other 10% made it home.
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07-22-2008, 3:47 PM
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King Motorsports

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GM up $1.23 a share and Ford up .36 a share today. My hydrogen fuel cell technology stock took a .22 a share dump today though.........go figure. Oh well, it's still the easiest $693.60 I ever made in a day.
KING MOTORSPORTS 315-427-0355 kpwithhp99@aol.com
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07-22-2008, 3:48 PM
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Cooper's? Me? I may stop in for one or two...
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